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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:59:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:You don't pvp. Sometimes, you spare enough from your wallet to fit a frigate and see what all the fuss is about, but you don't pvp. You run missions and farm plexes in your stabbed Incursus, but you don't pvp. Your whole reason for existence in this game is to see that number in the wallet window grow larger and larger.
You're not fooling anyone.
Are you e-stalking this Toon, or looking at CCP's Logs of his activvity ? That is the only way you could possibly know those things.
Bad poasting indeed. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:04:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:This is why I mention your sense of entitlement, as if someone else is supposed to care about what you want to do.
Yup. This especially applies to those who wish (almost psychotically) to 'force' people into Low/Null etc and play only their way.
Remember "Mine with a Gun!" ? |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:22:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Players do what is most profitable for them, you make it more profitable to be in null and low more players will go there, leading to a more interesting and vibrant game (in my opinion). That's not to say you should HAVE to go to either of these regions...
Yup. My Amarr Fuel Blocks are worth the same whether manufactured in Low, Null, or High. The SAME. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:42:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote: We're not afraid and envious of hisec people making more isk, but we're afraid of what CCP seems to be driving this game forward and further away from it's core sandbox concept.
You owe an apology to everyone at CCP for thinking that they would do something so foolish and stupid.
You give them absolutely no credit at all for their effots the PAST DECADE. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:49:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:CCP said, advertised and promised that Eve, is a conflict driven game, it's a game about war, about actions and consequences, it's on their ads, videos, clips, posters, everywhere. It's written on their website, it's stated various times by official CCP representatives; so yes, I believe and can safely bet that my (or our) interpretation of Eve is mostly correct.
Welp, I guess I imagined that entire "Butterfly Effect" Trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08hmqyejCYU |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 14:56:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote: Provocation and implying that I had done something that I didn't do doesn't make it true.
Your implication that they would even begin to consider changing the fundamental format of EVE.......out of an expressed, BY YOU, opinion in a posting.....is damning enough, and comes with an implied lack of faith in their company. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:06:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Sarah Schneider wrote: Provocation and implying that I had done something that I didn't do doesn't make it true.
Your implication that they would even begin to consider changing the fundamental format of EVE.......out of an expressed, BY YOU, opinion in a posting.....is damning enough, and comes with an implied lack of faith in their company. They don't need my faith to run the company, nor do I need to give them. I've always appreciated their work and dedication to this game; but when I say I'm disappointed, I will say I am. It has nothing to do with my respect towards CCP.
Conceded. But the original postng didn't seem to me to read that way. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:10:00 -
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Arkon Olacar wrote: Also, take the tin foil hat off, most null sec players I know (including goons, believe it or not) are in favour of a moon goo (or at least a tech) nerf.
Yup. I had to agree with the OTEC concept as the way to demonstrate to CCP a broken mechanism. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:13:00 -
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Anslo wrote:That is my problem over all. Elitism preventing Eve from being the best god damn MMO sandbox on this planet.
This mindset of elitism winds up infecting everything in the world from political parties to literary circles.
EVE just reflects and even magnifies that (probably due to anonymity as a factor). |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 15:16:00 -
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Anslo wrote: Remember Earth and Beyond? Great game, too bad it closed. No imagine if someone took the concept up again, looked and studied Eve, and applied the gameplay of FiS AND made WiS a core part of the game. They made the universe even MORE immersive than Eve. Do you think Eve and CCP would survive?
CCP has survived by staying one step ahead of the competition on every aspect of their game. But ships and balancing will only take one so far. If a business is to expand, it needs to adapt its product or service to encompass more publics. You don't do that, you die off eventually to the competition.
Unfortunately, when CCP tries to be ahead of the game, especially with WiS, we saw how that turned out in player reaction.
It's a case of "damned if they do and damned if they don't". |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.18 18:38:00 -
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rodyas wrote: It doesn't seem like you like to play multiplayer games really. Perhaps a real solo game, would go better with your solo play style.
It's a SANDBOX.
The is plenty of stuff to occupy the solo player. Even being a Market Queen doesn't qualify as utterly solo. They depend on 'others' to buy from them on the Market. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.19 12:53:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: One of my main issues with HS is the ability to earn isk afk, whether it be mining or mission running.
I'm sure the VAST majority of miners have never done the AFK Thing or Botted. I've never done it, not interested in it, and I'm sure that's the case for most miners out there
Let's start asking CCP for some REAL numbers behind this 'AFK mining" thing. Mining rock roids is pretty much not an AFK activity now from the small Hulk cargoholds (people mining roids in High with Macks and Skiffs are lame and cowardly imho). Ice Mining is a different story.
edit: probably the same percentage as the number and frequency of AFK Cloakers. Not that many. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:16:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:
As it stands with regards to manufacturing and research, it really is absurd that people in hisec not only have the safety of hisec but also the best/most facilities.
Which is exactly why, for the serious industrialist, they might as well be not available. Even in my dead-end backwater, most of the manufacturing slots have a weeks long queue. A factory POS is pretty much a requirement. Nerf or take away Station slots and folks will just put up more POS'es and essentially nothing will be solved. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:28:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
As it stands with regards to manufacturing and research, it really is absurd that people in hisec not only have the safety of hisec but also the best/most facilities.
Which is exactly why, for the serious industrialist, they might as well be not available. Even in my dead-end backwater, most of the manufacturing slots have a weeks long queue. A factory POS is pretty much a requirement. Nerf or take away Station slots and folks will just put up more POS'es and essentially nothing will be solved. We find and shoot those poses, problem solved.
Not in that alt you don't. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:32:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:. Except hisec's economic competitive advantage will be decreased if nullsec ever gets an industrial buff.
Possibly.......but it won't make a soul leave for Null or Low who has not already.
A decade has not been long enough to force that kind of movement from High Sec.....nothing will, except the removal of all stations from High Sec. Except instead of removing to Null or Low, they will then remove themselves from the game. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 12:53:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lord Zim wrote:. Except hisec's economic competitive advantage will be decreased if nullsec ever gets an industrial buff. Possibly.......but it won't make a soul leave for Null or Low who has not already. A decade has not been long enough to force that kind of movement from High Sec.....nothing will, except the removal of all stations from High Sec. Except instead of removing to Null or Low, they will then remove themselves from the game. I don't know about you, but I'm not aiming at people who haven't moved to nullsec in some capacity already, I'm aiming at the people who have proven that they're willing to take at least some risk, but they've wisened up to the fact that hisec is way too good at manufacturing that it doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form to try to do manufacturing in nullsec. I've tried doing nullsec manufacturing, it sucks dicks through a straw, so I moved back to hisec.
Agreed.
In 2 1/2 years of reading about Null Hijinx, be it the Blob Warfare or the horrid manufacturing, there just is not anything appealing about getting involved there at all. No reason to go there. More money from Faction Bling finds ? I have enough money where I'm at to be happy.
Null would have to change utterly to spur any interest in the casual game player at all. And the Null's would not like that at all. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 13:28:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Agreed.
In 2 1/2 years of reading about Null Hijinx, be it the Blob Warfare or the horrid manufacturing, there just is not anything appealing about getting involved there at all. No reason to go there. More money from Faction Bling finds ? I have enough money where I'm at to be happy.
Null would have to change utterly to spur any interest in the casual game player at all. And the Null's would not like that at all. Depends on how casual the gamers you want to get are. If you're looking at the current "hurr MY BARGE GOT GANKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN PUT A TANK ON IT IT WOULD HURT MY YIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!! **** GOONS!!!!!!!!!!!" whiners, then I can't express how little I want them to move into nullsec. No, I'd settle for industry being more or less as laid back as it is currently in hisec, and for that to happen doesn't necessitate null to "change utterly".
Probably right. It's the mindset of the current Null denizens that must change, not necessarily the mechanics of Null. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:15:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:It's the mindset of the current Null denizens that must change, not necessarily the mechanics of Null. Explain.
Don't have to. There are practically libriries of archived Forum Threads on this accumulated over the past decade. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 14:19:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:It's the mindset of the current Null denizens that must change, not necessarily the mechanics of Null. Explain. Don't have to. There are practically libriries of archived Forum Threads on this accumulated over the past decade. Translation: I was asked to clarify what I considered wrong with the null player mindset and what I think it should be, but I didn't actually have anything in mind and was just using it as a talking point, so I'll pretend the argument makes itself and dodge the question entirely.
-1 Troll Post.
Can you not search the Archives yourself ? Bespeaks of your own laziness. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.10.22 15:33:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: Ultimately F'Elch, your view of the game is exactly the problem, in that people want the game to be what they personally want, rather than those people enjoying the game for what it actually is.
If you didn't like sandbox games with unforgiving death penalties, no really "safe" playing areas and that requires workman-like dedication (ie EVE is a job) to make any REAL in-game money, why do you play it?
At first you say the people who want a Sandbox are in the wrong...a problem............and yet you then call, and insist, that EVE a SandBox. 
That's the problem with Internet posting. Most are just typing to type something without really thinking. A monkey could do it.  |
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